The coffee shop is kind of a "lounge area" where anyone can ask questions about the site or anything else, and anyone else should feel free to respond. Here we can also discuss what SeattleWiki should be.
Hi. I added a section on George and Dragon Pub, focusing on the Quiz Night. Is this the kind of content we're looking for? I have to admit I'm a bit fuzzy on the distinctions between this and the Seattle Travel wiki -- I mean, they should be distinct, but I see a lot of room for overlap, as well. -- Scarequotes 18:19, 9 Jun 2004 (CDT)
- Hi Scarequotes. Yes, I think the page on George and Dragon Pub is great. I agree that there is going to be some overlap with wikitravel. I'd hope to keep that to a minimum by focusing more on what people who live in Seattle would want to know/do/share info about, as opposed to what the average traveler coming here would want to know. For example, trivia night sounds something more for locals than not. And there's always the link to SeattleWiki on wikitravel so they can come here and see what's happening. --matias 18:27, 9 Jun 2004 (CDT)
How should we go about spreading the word and getting people interested in SeattleWiki? Join the spreading the word discussion. --matias 13:02, 10 Jun 2004 (CDT)
Maybe we should have some type of "Seattle Wiki" party, where we go out with digital cams, take pictures of a place, and write out some pages together..? -- Lion Kimbro
I asked who at the Seattle Wikipedia meetup knew about this wiki. Nobody raised their hand!
So I told them all about it.
You should have been there!
Don't fret- people will come. Have no Doubts about that..! They'll learn about it, and they'll come.
Wikipedia is presently grappling with the problem of "what do we do with entries for high schools?" It seems like most people don't want them- they seem to feel they are more credible, and that the workload more managable, if they exclude high schools and stuff.
I raised, "Well, use the city wiki!" Most people didn't know that many cities have their own wiki. I was surprised at how many people did not know about this.
Most wikipedians I have encountered, have only limited experience beyond Wikipedia. (And who can blame them? It's byzantine.) I felt that my perspective as someone in wiki, but outside Wikipedia, was valued.
People were sympathetic to the idea of using city wiki. Most hadn't seen them, though, and thus couldn't form an opinion. (It seemed to me.)
I think this thing- city wiki & wikipedia, and what the topical boundaries of wikipedia are- is interesting. It may happen that Wikipedia delegates certain subjects, topics, more formally.
I wouldn't mind having entries for C89.5 and Nathan Hale high school here!
Matias, I hope you'll be able to make it to the next Seattle wikipedia meeting..!
-- Lion Kimbro
I strongly recommend that you reconsider the license of this site if you wish to increase participation, and that you clean the slate and start over while this is still a young project. I heard about this site at the Seattle Wikipedia meetup, and was initially intrigued. However, it looked like you picked a license that's incompatible with the GFDL, meaning no content from this site can ever be incorporated into Wikipedia, no can pages from Wikipedia be copied to the Seattle Wiki. Worse, you've picked a pretty severe set of Creative Commons restrictions. If this ever is successful, the "no commercial use without permission" clause means that someone would have to secure permission from every single contributor to use it in a vaguely commercial way.
Given the nature of Wikis (with such promiscuous participation), probably the safest license to choose is public domain. Yes, you'll run the risk of someone copying the information, but you'll also maximize the possibility that information developed here can be merged with other projects later (e.g. a Washington State wiki, or a restaurant guide wiki, or Wikipedia). Though I've got plenty misgivings about the GFDL, I view it as the best runner up. That would at least keep you compatible licensing-wise with Wikipedia.
Don't get me wrong...I think this is very cool that you took the initiative, set something up, and started promoting it. I'm just saddened to see such a restrictive license, because I think it's going to really limit the potential of the site, and encourage competition. I would like to participate in a Seattle-centric Wiki, but I can't abide by the current licensing. -- RobLa